Nolan talks MAN OF STEEL & BATMAN 3

By Brian Kronner on 03.11.2010

Chris Nolan gave an interview to Geoff Boucher via the LA TIMES. It was lengthy so YAHOO summed it up a little, here is some of what they had to say:



Usually, Superman is the guy who does the rescuing. But after 2006’s "Superman Returns" underperformed at the box office, it looked like the comic book hero’s movie career might be finished. So Hollywood called in their own Man of Steel, director Christopher Nolan, to help revive the struggling franchise, just like he did with "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight." In a lengthy interview with the Los Angeles Times, Nolan talked for the first time about his plans for relaunching Superman, and his intentions to make a third and final Batman film.

Nolan admits in the interview that the idea for his take on Superman came about when he was stuck while working on the story for the next Batman movie. In a fit of writer’s block, David Goyer, who crafted the stories of the previous two films with Nolan, made an off-hand proposal of what they could do with a Superman movie. "He basically told me, ‘I have this thought about how you would approach Superman,’" Nolan said. "I immediately got it, loved it and thought: That is a way of approaching the story I’ve never seen before that makes it incredibly exciting."

The other bombshell in the interview is that Nolan intends for his follow-up for the hugely successful "The Dark Knight" to be his last Batman film. He says that his brother Jonathan, who co-wrote the last movie, is currently at work on the screenplay. Nolan says that finding an ending to Batman’s story is the main appeal for him to return to Gotham City. "I’m very excited about the end of the film, the conclusion, and what we’ve done with the characters," Nolan tells the Times. "Unlike the comics, these things don’t go on forever in film and viewing it as a story with an end is useful."

Nolan also says he and his writing partners are applying the lessons they learned from the Batman series and applying it to Superman. He said they are "trying to find an incredible story in a way that audiences can engage with it the way they engage with contemporary action films." Just don’t expect the two superheroes to cross paths. Nolan makes it clear in the interview: "Each [superhero] serves to the internal logic of the story. They have nothing to do with each other."

Ever since Nolan’s involvement in a new Superman film was announced, the internet has been flooded with rumors and speculation about the project. Nolan’s wife and producing partner, Emma Thomas, laughs off the gossip, telling the Times, "I don’t know where this stuff comes from." And as for which villain Batman will face in his final outing, all Nolan will say is "It won’t be Mr. Freeze."


No Freeze

Ok, so no crossover, no Mr. Freeze, and no 4th Batman movie. Maybe not what everyone wanted to hear. But the article is worth a read in it’s entirety.

58 Comments


 
2010-03-11 10:03:12
Nanchancan
Speak for yourself that is EXACTLY what I wanted to HEAR! No crossover is a great thing, it'll keep the audience focused on Batman and Batman alone, not counting side characters, while keeping the cheery, boring un-beatable super fag away. No Mr. Freeze is also a good thing because he's too unreal and quite lame; wouldn't work on screen with my pal Bale. And as for ending the franchise at 3, holy shit, YES! A 4th film would smear away Batman Begins, it's just too much, unneeded story.

 
2010-03-11 10:03:24
WorfWWorfington
NO MR. FREEZE????? I WILL NEVER WATCH ANOTHER MOVIE AGAIN AS LONG AS I LIVE. I WILL ONLY WATCH BABY EINSTEIN!

 
2010-03-11 10:03:29
Norman
Worf, why don't you go watch you're 'Space Soap Opera' and talk about Data's feelings. Way to just show up out of the blue and be a total asshole to everyone. No one is freaking out here, but people HAD express interest in Mr. Freeze. It's no big deal, stop being a dickhead.

 
2010-03-11 10:03:49
Dr. Kronner
I want as much BATMAN as I can get. If it's done right it would 'smear away' anything. It would only add, assuming that Nolan did it.

 
2010-03-11 10:03:52
WorfWWorfington
I'm just trying to fit in. And why on Earth, with the Riddler and Penguin still out there, would anyone want Mr. Freeze? Hell, I'd rather have a Joker recast than Mr. Freeze.

 
2010-03-11 11:03:24
WorfWWorfington
That all works, but no freeze guns. If he has some kind of serum that lowers people's temperatures and that's how he rolls or whatever, we can talk. But no freeze guns. And as for my Joker recast, there is one name. Daniel Day-Lewis. If he won't do it, it won't be done. (In my world)

 
2010-03-11 11:03:45
Norman
Fair enough, but from what we've heard so far is that Riddler will be the primary, and that Penguin might show up as a mobster, IE: Falcone. And the Victor Fires would also make an appearance, but not as the super villain, like Dr. Conners in SPIDERMAN.

 
2010-03-11 12:03:19
Dr. Kronner
Fuck. Yes. Norman.

You guys give me Kristen Bell as Harley and I'll stop attacking your ridiculous F-Ron for Spidey.

 
2010-03-11 12:03:57
Norman
Daniel Day Lewis is awesome. I'd be down with that, but I can't see him doing it. I actually agree with the Doc about Harely though. Rather than recast Joker, keep Joker in ARKHAM, where Dr. Quinzel works and have him driver her mad (Never neeeding to actually show him) and she can do his bidding on the outside.

 
2010-03-11 13:03:04
Fisticufflinks
Sorry DOC! I'll throw my vote for F-RON out lightyears before I'll get behind any movie involving Harley Quinn! And more importantly any movie involving both Harley Quinn and Kristen Bell!

You know what ... scratch that ... you can have your HQ/KB picture as long as there is zero Batman involved. Because then I can simply ignore it's existence. You know I love you, but I just can't get behind it.


 
2010-03-11 13:03:28
Fisticufflinks
P.S. WARNING: Sacrilege ZONE AHEAD! I'm tired of Chris Nolans whole "Batman" the only hero in his world bullshit. I am even more tired of Chris Nolans (now) "Superman" only hero in his world bullshit. Both characters belong to the DCUniverse, Asshole! Deal with it. They aren't your characters to put in seperate worlds. If you want to call it an elseworlds project for Batman ... fine, I guess. But Don't throw Supes in his own ring as well.

 
2010-03-11 14:03:22
WorfWWorfington
Heh... you offend a fan boy and he turns on you with the fury of a thousand suns.

 
2010-03-11 14:03:44
atheistgirl
I can see the reason behind having no cross over stuff. It starts to make things untidy, no matter how great it would be. I mean look at the Avengers stuff. That's going to be a big headache for who ever does it. It's so much easier in the comics.

 
2010-03-11 15:03:06
WorfWWorfington
I'm not the one calling someone I've never met an asshole just because he disagrees with my take on a comic book character. You say I don't know you? Seems like you're fairly predictable to me.

 
2010-03-11 15:03:48
Fisticufflinks
atheistgirl I'm fine with no crossover stuff as well. I just don't like it when a person decides he is a "god" among directors and over a beloved character[or(s)] of people around the globe. So much so that he can dictate that the character is the only hero in his world. You don't have to make that statement. Just don't do crossover stuff. If they(the WB in this case) tell you it's going to happen, that's your chance to leave a project if you choose.

 
2010-03-11 15:03:52
Fisticufflinks
Worf I can only assume you are speaking to me. You assume a lot of things, anyway ... so let me do my share of assuming in that. I've never been one to fall over mr. Nolan. He's not "God" in my book and never has been. For Me ... "The Dark Knight" is a couple steps back from "Batman Begins". I didn't turn on anyone. And I don't demand the "fury of a thousand suns." Plus, you are a fanboy, probably far more than I, sir. So stop throwing that around. You don't know me at all.

 
2010-03-11 15:03:53
MUNKRAWK
First off, Superman in a Batman film fuck that. Batman in a Superman film, bring it on. Make 3 Superman films and put Bats in the 3rd. Second, You CANNOT have Joker in a movie unseen. That is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard. Lastly, Nolan has done a GREAT thing and he fuckin deserves respect for what he did with Batman. he isn't a god by any means but he is the fucking MAN for saving the Batman franchise.

 
2010-03-11 16:03:00
Fisticufflinks
I'm not calling Mr. Nolan an Asshole "just because he disagrees with my take on a comic book character". Once again, a gross misjudgement on your part, Worf. I'm calling him an Asshole because he is making something - something that it isn't. Something that people have loved for a long time. Now maybe it's all willy nilly and I don't care to you ... but I say it like I see it.

 
2010-03-11 16:03:01
Fisticufflinks
I'm the pathetic one? Right.

 
2010-03-11 16:03:20
Fisticufflinks
Also, Worf ... Even if I did hold Mr. Nolan at a "godlike" plane. I'd still find it far within my duty as a goddamned human being to call bullshit where bullshit is. I call my best friends asshole when they say Bullshit like that ... why wouldn't I say the same thing to Chris Nolan?

 
2010-03-11 16:03:43
Fisticufflinks
There is lots of justification and reason. ah, fuck it ... whatever ... I'm done wasting my breath on you.

 
2010-03-11 16:03:50
WorfWWorfington
Uh-huh, and the studio has hired HIM to say, "You know, I think the mythology of Batman and the mythology of Superman don't really go well together in one movie." And when he puts out Batman 3, he will make $3 billion dollars and probably at least a billion for Superman. Guess what? You don't count. Live with that.

 
2010-03-11 16:03:53
WorfWWorfington
That's right. Get out. Go run to momma. She's just upstairs, right behind the basement door.

 
2010-03-11 16:03:57
WorfWWorfington
Dude, you're calling someone you've never met an asshole. There is no justification and no reason. It's a patheic temper tantrum from a fanboy and it makes me giggle. There. I just giggled again. Whoops, did it again.

 
2010-03-11 17:03:34
Fisticufflinks
Your avatar rules, EL GUAPO.

 
2010-03-11 17:03:57
EL GUAPO
Damn, I love this shit.

 
2010-03-11 19:03:41
bubaroni
chris nolan does what the studio tells him to do, if the studio says do a cross over he can either do it, which he would because he'd make millions or they would get someone else to do it. i'm glad he won't do it cause' he aint' got the balls obviously, if he did he wouldn't of been a douche openly sayin' he wouldn't do it. worf i don't know you and i'm callin' you an asshole, wtf you gonna do about it buddy?

 
2010-03-11 19:03:41
bubaroni
so what you're tellin' me is if someone poses a script for a crossover the studio won't back it? are you nuts? they know not matter what happens the movies going to make a shit ton anyway, look at transformers, both movies were ass but mad millions. the know for a fact that any batman movie or superman movie will put asses in seats regardless.

 
2010-03-11 19:03:48
WorfWWorfington
Dark Knight was highest grossing movie of 2008. Nolan has now agreed to save Superman. When Nolan says no crossover, WB execs say, "Yes, sir." WB doesn't care about the integrity of characters, or of worlds, or of cross-overs. They want money. Lots of it. Nolan brings it. Fanboys don't. Nolan wins.

 
2010-03-11 20:03:34
EL GUAPO
Thanx fisticufflinks 'preciate that bro

 
2010-03-11 20:03:45
WorfWWorfington
Why would WB put both of them in the same movie when they can just have them come out one after the other? And it would have to be a good script, not whatever fan fic you masturbate to.

 
2010-03-11 21:03:18
bubaroni
i don't read comics and i aint' your buddy. oh because i don't know, when the average movie goer see's 40 batman films they get tired of watchin' fuckin' batman films. when you see star trek the wrath of khans son then grandson, then great grandson you're fuckin' tired of see'n god damn star trek movies unless you are a fan boy. that's why you would do a crossover or make a team film, thats why they are makin' xmen origins: magneto instead of whatever xmen movie.

 
2010-03-11 22:03:41
Toni Smith
I wish DC editorial would listen to what Nolan is doing and keep Batman out of the DC universe proper. Batman doesn't fit with all the other stupid shit that goes on in DC, and he wouldn't give two fucks about anything that doesn't directly involve Gotham. Batman and his cast of characters should not have anything to do with Superman, Aquaman, Psycho Pirate or any other DC retard.

 
2010-03-11 22:03:45
WorfWWorfington
Was that even English?

 
2010-03-12 00:03:04
MUNKRAWK
I disagree with you Toni. You see to be trashing anything but Batman. Is Batman your only love from the DC Universe?

 
2010-03-12 00:03:58
MUNKRAWK
As for the superman movie, if they aren't going with Routh, then lets get some muscle on Superman. not some scrawny frame.

 
2010-03-12 01:03:11
Toni Smith
DC ought to look at how well Daredevil has been written by the likes of Bendis and Brubaker and start following suit. DD could give two shits about a mugging in the Bronx,if it's not in the Kitchen, he doesn't care; Batman should have the same resolve about Gotham City: Starro have no fucking concern to Batman because he has Pimps in Robinson Park with unbroken bones that need snapping. Also, placing Batman with the rest of the DCU makes him seem sane, which he isn't

 
2010-03-12 01:03:25
Toni Smith
Yes, Yes he is. Besides retrospective tales like New Frontier, or Elseworlds, I find the DC universe to be abysmal. But my reasons for keeping Batman out is not a personal preference thing, it's because he doesn't fit with the rest of the Universe. It's stupid to have a team that consists of Superman,A Flash, Wonder Woman, or any other super being and Batman. He fights a different type of crime in a different type of world, the only hero he should ever associate with is Green Arrow

 
2010-03-12 09:03:15
MUNKRAWK
I don't care how insane someone is, you don't pass up a chance to hang out with Wonder Woman. The way I see it, Batman has a superpowered brain. Alot of situations JL deal with are planet threatening and Bats wants to be a part of it. Not to mention he is probably the only one who can figure most of the shit out.

 
2010-03-12 09:03:22
Ranger6
We don't need more than 3 movies. Reboots are good. Also, just because you can write Batman doesn't mean that you can write Superman.

 
2010-03-12 09:03:31
Fisticufflinks
Sorry, Toni ... but you're incorrect. Batman belongs in the DCU. He was created and has been involved with the DCU for decades. You might not like it, but it's a fact that you are going to have to recognize. I'm a DC fan! DC get my money over Marvel almost everytime. I enjoy both, but if it comes down to choosing sides. I'd give up my MARVEL books to read DC all the way. Besides ... BATMAN the BRAVE and THE BOLD! is genius!

 
2010-03-12 09:03:56
MUNKRAWK
In the justice league Unlimited series, there is an episode called Dark Heart. Wonder Woman actually puts The Atom between her tits so she can continue fighting..

 
2010-03-12 10:03:00
Toni Smith
So, Batman should operate with the Justice League on issues that he has no concern with strictly because someone opted to do that back in the 40's? That's bullshit, Batman should have been treated as a separate entity within the DC Universe ever since the first Crisis. Being involved in JLA affairs has weakened the character and allowed retarded events to occur in Batman; like Jason Todd's Resurrection and the upcoming Batman through time series.

 
2010-03-12 10:03:33
Fisticufflinks
Agreed, Ranger6 ... just because you can do Batman doesn't mean you can do Superman at all.

 
2010-03-12 11:03:10
WorfWWorfington
The Batman MOVIES and the Superman MOVIES are two different worlds and entities. Movies aren't comic books. Never have been and never will be.

 
2010-03-12 11:03:18
Toni Smith
Actually my favorite Batman writer is Jeph Loeb, who really is just an extension of Miller. Even if Batman is written as a sane character, we're talking about a BILLIONAIRE who uses his unlimited resources to dress up like a monster and beat up muggers to cleanse society. If Batman were sane he'd stabilize the city's infrastructure and personally create multiple Social programs and use his financial and political clout to keep dirty cops out of GCPD.

 
2010-03-12 11:03:30
WorfWWorfington
Norman, I think some folks here don't know the difference.

 
2010-03-12 11:03:37
Norman
Movies aren't Comic Books? Really? Wow, you just blew my mind. What an enlightening comment on society you just made there.

 
2010-03-12 11:03:38
Toni Smith
Batman doesn't assault crazy people for the greater good, Batman is Bruce's personal form of fucked up closure therapy.

 
2010-03-12 11:03:45
Fisticufflinks
Batman is more than you think of him, I think, Toni. There are lot's of different incarnations of the character. Perhaps your favorite Batman stories (I'm guessing Frank Miller?) paint Batman in a different way that makes him more off the rails than he actually is. Granted that's true. However, the majority of the Bat-stories don't portray him that completely off balance. Look at the Book Trinity by Matt Wagner as a great reason why Batman belongs in the DCU! ...

 
2010-03-12 11:03:45
Fisticufflinks
Shit, even Frank uses other members of the DCU in his books. Superman and Wonder Woman are both in his Dark Knight books and in his zaniest and most extreme Batman book All-Star Batman and Robin ... even people like fuckin' plastic man show up and it's awesome!

 
2010-03-12 12:03:17
Toni Smith
Worf is right, far too many people convince themselves that what works in comics will work in a movie. It's high time comics fans realize that we're really just a small percentage of ticket revenue, and when you spend X amount of time and money to establish a character as grounded as possible, you throw that all away when you have him talk to an alien with a rock allergy. JMS calls this a gimme in his scriptwriting book.

 
2010-03-12 12:03:17
Toni Smith
There's always room for flag panties.

 
2010-03-12 12:03:37
WorfWWorfington
The Schumacher Batman probably could have incorporated Superman (There was a throwaway line in the fourth and last one) The Nolan Batman has no room at all for red-and-blue tights. Nor for green-skinned Martians. Nor for stretchy men in idiot glasses. Nor for people with wings. Nor for flag panties.

 
2010-03-12 15:03:08
MUNKRAWK
Worf, If Batman MOVIES and the Superman MOVIES are two different worlds then why do they mention Gotham in Superman Returns?....and where did you get those clothes... at the... toilet store?

 
2010-03-12 16:03:11
MUNKRAWK
What is stopping Nolan from saying no this, no freeze no that! and then just doing it anyway? Throw people off and then shake it up.

 
2010-03-12 16:03:57
mramazing
Looks like it's gone to his head. A realistic Superman. Batman Ends. No Justice League. EPIC FAIL. oh and make mine Marvel.

 
2010-03-12 18:03:27
Fisticufflinks
Well, you are very aware then, Toni that Batman and Superman are in the same world. Jeph Loeb wrote HUSH. And Superman is in Hush along with lots of other Supers. Nolan says that Batman is the ONLY Hero in his world. That means even all other gotham heroes aren't allowed. I think that is a bad thing to put out there. That's all I'm really saying. It is a dumb statement to make.

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